Andy has responded to Mohler’s article. Find more information about that here
In a recent article by Al Mohler published in World, Dr. Mohler takes Andy Stanley to task for his “departure from Biblical Christianity.” What is the issue that is causing a more mainstream Evangelical leader to assert that Andy Stanley, a man that has already denied critical doctrines, has departed from Biblical Christianity? The indisputable evidence he’s accepted the idea that an individual can simultaneously be a practicing homosexual and a follower of Christ. Mohler writes,
Dr. Al Mohler / albertmohler.com
In the coming days, Andy Stanley is set to host the “Unconditional Conference” at a campus of North Point Community Church in the metro Atlanta area, and the website for the conference bills it as a “two-day premier event” especially designed for parents of LGBTQ+ children and ministry leaders. [The conference was held September 28–29, 2023.] “You will be equipped, refreshed, and inspired as you hear from leading communicators on topics that speak to your heart, soul, and mind,” it promises. One statement stands out in the description: “No matter what theological stance you hold, we invite you to listen, reflect, and learn as we approach this topic from the quieter middle space.”
Mohler continues, stating that while the event is billed by its sponsors as presenting “the quieter middle space,” we must not allow ourselves to be misled:
“[T]his event is designed as a platform for normalizing the LGBTQ+ revolution while claiming” otherwise. “In truth, there is no ‘middle space’ on these issues, and it is no longer plausible to claim that such middle space exists.”
Mohler is correct in his assessment of the conference and right to condemn Andy, who seems to still claim to not affirm homosexuality. Mohler points to such things as speakers, Justin Lee and Brian Nietzel, both being in gay “marriages,” and both being “LGBTQ activists” Mohler describes another speaker at the conference, David Gushee, as “a prominent intellectual who has been honest about his own change of mind on the moral status of LGBTQ+ behaviors and relationships.” Mohler, very rightfully, states that “[t]his is not ‘the quieter middle space’.”
If you want more information on the event being problematic, then Mohler honestly does a good job articulating that. The article is worth reading, and the facts of it are not at issue here. Mohler is right to critique Stanley for drifting into the “quieter middle space,” or may we frame it, the space where the “Bible whispers” instead of shouts.
Wrong When its Quiet, Okay When its a Whisper
J.D. Greear, megachurch pastor and former president of the Southern Baptist Convention, has become infamous for stating that the “Bible appears more to whisper when it comes to sexual sin, compared to its shouts about materialism and religious pride.”
Selected quotes from “How the Fall Affects us All” preached Jan 27 2019 by J.D. Greear
Why is it problematic that Mohler did not comment on J.D. Greear’s comments at the time? When they were made, Greear was the president of the Southern Baptist Convention, of which Mohler is a part of, and leader of their flagship seminary. I.E. this was an influential leader in Mohler’s own backyard, not the leader of a nondenominational church he is not connected with. Yet it may be argued that Greear’s comments did not warrant the same attention as the openly affirming nature of participants at the “Unconditional Conference.”
Greear is clearly on the same path as Andy, so much so that both seemed to have shared the same opinions back in 2015 when Greear stated on April 26th that “the church ought to be the safest place on the planet for a teenager with same-sex attraction to reveal that, or to ‘come out’.” While on April 17th, Andy stated that churches should be the “safest place on the planet for students to talk about anything, including same-sex attraction.”
Quote from “God’s Love and Same Sex Attraction: 1 Cor 6:9–11” preached April 26 2015 by J.D. Greear
To further emphasize the compromised position of Greear we can point to two more examples from the “Whispers” sermon:
“Stand up and be among the fiercest advocates for the preservation of the dignity and the rights of LGBT people.”
What rights do LGBT people not have?
“Paul list homosexuality simply as one corruption among many.”
Paul, in Romans 1, specifically lists homosexuality separate from other sins, and in the context of a society that has been fully given over to their lusts.
But Greear did not stop at homosexuality in 2019, and stated in a podcast that “I think Christians ought to be charitable in how they approach [using preferred pronouns]. I don’t think there’s a definitive, once-for-all-time, right and wrong answer.” He also clarified that he leans towards “generosity” and would refer to someone who visits his church by their preferred pronouns. He also recommends “gay Christian” activist Preston Sprinkle, who, though not as extreme, would not be out of place at the “Unconditional Conference.”
Greear has tried to distance himself from these comments, though he did not see fit to take down the content. Even if we treat him charitably now, why was Mohler unwilling to warn about the train that was preparing to leave his own backyard in 2019? The one that was a direct threat to the integrity of his own denomination? Clearly, Greear is, or at least was, one step from Andy.
If Greear is one Step From Andy, Then Mohler is one Step From Greear
Mohler has previously been clear on homosexuality, stating in 2004 that “[h]omosexual acts are expressly and unconditionally forbidden by God through His Word, and such acts are an abomination to the Lord by His own declaration.” Yet by 2011 he was calling the church out for being “homophobic,” and that homosexuality was “more than a choice.” This trajectory would continue, and by 2014 Moher was going as far as “repenting” for denying “sexual orientation” at a Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission event that has since been deleted, though information and clips are available. The Bible never comes close to affirming some kind of genetically fixed orientation, and affirming such a thing is more than a halfway house to accepting homosexuality. Not only does he accept the idea of fixed orientation, but Mohler said he repented of the Biblical position.
It needs to be pointed out that for as far as Mohler has drifted, he still believes the “orientation” itself is sinful, and obviously can articulate that accepting homosexuality puts one outside Biblical orthodoxy, as he points out about Andy Stanley. Still, it is strange to see Mohler, a man boarding a train, fine with a man flirting with pulling out of the station, yet condemn another man for pulling the train out of the station. It seems that Mohler does not understand what trains at a train station do… they eventually leave that station.
Kyle Whitt and his family reside in beautiful Northern Idaho where he serves his local church by leading college ministry, assisting local planting efforts, and building connections with other local churches. Kyle was formerly involved with church planting in the SBC's North American Mission Board until he removed himself and called out blatantly false teaching about the gospel.